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  • Forum Rules Guidelines (Updated July 2013)

    General Rules and Guidelines

    - Keep threads on topic.
    - Start threads in the most appropriate forum.
    - Discussion or promotion of other online forums or groups is prohibited. Referencing another forum to credit an original author of a story, information or image is permitted.
    - Discussion or linking to live auctions or current For Sale posts is not permitted, except for the purposes of authentication in "Watch Out - Authenticate Me".
    - If you wish to use the “Watch Out - Authenticate Me" forum please note the rules at the start of this forum.

    Copyright Material in Forum Posts
    - Observe Copyright Laws when posting copyrighted material.
    - If the material belongs to someone else and you are permitted to use it please credit the original author.
    - Please make use of the forum's attachment function to share such materials with the community.
    - Do not post materials if you do not have permission to distribute them electronically or otherwise. This includes posting images directly from a website (‘hot-linking’).

    Declaration on the Protection of Copyright (Updated May, 2013)

    The Timekeeper Watch Forum New Zealand, from here on known as TKNZ, is the work of its authors, both as a whole and in its individual parts. Copyright is owned and administered by TKNZ. It is permitted to save excerpts from the web pages of the forum on a local computer and to print out copies thereof only for personal, non-commercial use. Any other manner of use, reproduction, adaptation, adjustment, other alteration, distribution or saving of the web sites of the forum pages in any form and using any means, either in whole or in part, without prior written consent from the Owners of TKNZ, is prohibited.

    Images, trademark, and watermark of the Timekeeper Watch Forum / TKNZ on the web pages, as well as further works by the Owners of TKNZ, are protected by further rights of the affected persons. The names and indications, including trademark and image watermark, of companies, persons, societies and organisations may be registered trademarks of the relevant owners. Authored works of other persons may also be found on these web pages.

    TKNZ reserves the right to update or amend this Declaration in case of necessity. Any amendments shall be announced on the “Announcements / Latest News / Forum Rules” without delay.

    - New Zealand Defamation Laws apply to on line forums. TKNZ is able to be accessed by the general public.
    - Members are legally responsible for their post content.
    - It is unlikely that the admin and moderators will leave material on the forum which could result in legal action, whether the statements are true or not.

    - Before you post anything a good rule of thumb is:
    Would I like this to be said about me on a public forum? If not, then probably don’t say it.

    -Should you have a problem with a member or post, send the member a Private Message (PM) or report the post to a Moderator using the 'Report This Post' link. Do not take your complaint to the public forums.


    - Using the Public Forum for selling, buying or trading is not permitted.
    - Counterfeit Items are STRICTLY forbidden. If you have any doubts about an item ask the forum in the appropriate sub-forum.
    - Homage watches are acceptable. Fakes will not be tolerated.
    - Soliciting your items for sale via Private Messages is prohibited.
    - Linking to your own auctions is not permitted, in posts, signatures or otherwise. This includes eBay, Trademe and other auction-type sites.
    - Selling of personal items is only permitted in the Market Place. Instructions on how to gain access are posted here.

    - When using the “Want to Sell – Watches” forum mark the Topic/Post Heading with either; FS, FT or FSOT and then use the following template in the post:

    Condition: TKNZ
    Price including shipping:

    - Before you post a sale, trade or swap item there is a SEVEN DAY WAITING PERIOD if the watch you wish to sell or trade has been the subject of a post elsewhere on TKNZ, with or without photos.

    - You may only have three (3) active posts on the TKNZ Market Place at a time (including "bumps") and no more than three (3) items per post. "Active posts" means the cumulative total of all your TKNZ Market Place posts regardless of whether they are posted as FS, FT, FSOT or WTB. This posting limit includes commercial sellers. If more than three (3) posts by a single trader are found to be active, the mods will remove the most recent post.

    - "Bumps" are allowed every 48 hours.

    - Post a TKNZ Grade (See Below). Post a clear full description. Post a price and leave it posted. Post the truth. Post in English.
    - Sellers are asked to leave the advertised asking price on the listing after the sale has been completed for the future reference of members.
    - Notify any change to the status of the watch (sold, withdrawn etc) with a post or a PM to a mod who will then alter the Topic heading.

    - Buy the 'User' not the 'Deal'. Ask for references, do your research and remember: If it is 'too good to be true' it probably is.

    Want to Buy, Sell, Trade, Swap or Lease a Watch?

    - To safeguard the integrity of the site and to protect its members you must be approved by the Moderators prior to posting in the Market Place. Approval is made by filling out the 'Market Place Application Form' (see below).
    - Admin will only approve selected Users, this is to keep the fraudsters at bay. Genuine users will have no trouble gaining quick approval.
    - There is an expectation that members will have made a reasonable number of TKNZ postings and forum contributions (25) and have been a member for a minimum of 30 days prior to applying for seller status.
    - Please note applications are usually turned around within 48 hours.

    Market Place Application Form

    - Copy and complete the below information in a PM to Admin and put ‘MP App’ in the subject heading. To make it easier to approve your membership please go to your user control panel and check the box beside 'Market Place' (in the right column) and then click 'Join selected'
    - Prior history in trading watches: Please provide details of any sites used, your user ID’s, and feedback record etc.
    - Intended participation on the Market Place eg. do you intend to buy, sell, trade?
    - Information about yourself eg. watch history, favorite brands, etc.

    TKNZ Grading System

    - Created due to the need to standardise the grading of watches in New Zealand. Sellers had little idea how to grade their watches so many were greatly misrepresented . Buyers had little idea what condition watches purchased will actually be in upon arrival. Loosely based on a number of International Systems but greatly simplified and so easier for 'Non-Experts' to be able to put a simple grade against a piece. For 'used' watches – a watch never touched or removed from the box is 100% - take it out, put it on in the house it is 99% or less. The average watch on the wrist of the WIS is VG - Exc.

    LNIB 99%. Worn (likely 1-2 times inside) yet perfect condition – must have everything including boxes, manuals, AD Stamped papers etc - unsized bracelet – no marks other than factory.

    Mint 96-98%. Worn a handful of times (not 20 or 30) - in near perfect condition with signs of wear visible through low powered loupe. Working perfectly, keeping excellent time, needs nothing - may be an immaculate restoration or a piece with no papers otherwise LNIB.

    Near Mint 92-95%. Light signs of wear to case visible by eye – leather straps shows light use - bracelet may be resized, 100% original in every way, works perfectly, needs nothing.

    Excellent 87-91%. Evidence of use more visible than NM, 100% Original - No dents, dings, major scratches, strap or bracelet has little wear. Working perfectly, needs nothing.

    Very good 83-86%. Possible to have a very high quality redial otherwise all original – evidence of regular yet careful wear, needs no service except possible regulation – no major dings or scratches.

    Good 76-82%. Plainly used considerably however still quite wearable but could do with a full service, can have major scratches or dings, may not have 100% original parts, poor quality redial etc.

    Fair 71-75%. May not be running well enough to wear, complete but not all 100% original, needs service or refurbishment and appears a bit rough to the untrained eye even.

    Poor 65-70%. May or may not run at all, needs more work than ‘Fair’, missing parts, severely scratched, dinged – needs professional help.

    Good Guys Forum

    - Please limit these to posts concerning TKNZ Members who you have enjoyed multiple solid experiences with. Remember it is best to PM concerned parties and do your research.
    - Caveat Emptor

    Non Watch Related Sale/Trade Section (Updated July, 2013)

    - This section is for the use of TKNZ members with Market Place rights to sell, buy or trade non-watch related items.

    - The TKNZ forum owners, administrators, moderators and their representatives are not liable for any matters, disputes or otherwise which may arise from the use of this section.

    - The forum administrators and moderators reserve the right to delete any posts or items which it considers inappropriate or offensive.

    - Members use this section at their own risk.

    - Breaking any of the above listed forum rules can result in the loss of posting privileges and loss of your Timekeeper account.

    - We also reserve the right to ban any user, at any time and for any reason. The administrators frequently review forum messages for those that are in violation of Timekeeper rules.

    - Any messages found to be in violation will be deleted without warning or explanation. We reserve the right to edit, reprint, distribute or delete any posting for any reason and without prior notification or explanation to the author.

    The Timekeeper Forum and its representatives will not be held liable for the result of the usage of any information provided in the Timekeeper Forum, and disclaim all liability resulting in the use of the posted information. The Timekeeper Forum takes no responsibility for the content of any of the messages posted in the Timekeeper Forum or of the authenticity of its authors. We make no representation or warranty that the functioning of our website will be completely without defects, errors or interruptions (for example to perform maintenance and support). All opinions and views expressed in the Timekeeper Forum are solely those of their respective authors and are not necessarily those of Timekeeper Forum and its representatives.

    We reserve the right to change the aforementioned rules at any time without warning or notice.

    By registering with the Timekeeper Forum, you agree to abide by the above rules and terms.